I love it when people act like they are making arguments on "pure Vulcan logic" and their arguments are absolutely riddled with obvious errors.

First and foremost, in the world of tech (and in fact, most knowledge jobs), measuring productivity is notoriously difficult. There's a reason why few workers in these jobs have OKRs or KPIs that anyone would consider both objective/measurable AND are truly applicable to what that person does day to day.

So anyone telling me that they know what truly improved productivity, I know they are *making stuff up* because they don't have a way to measure it, therefore they don't have a way to prove to me that they improved it.

Remote workers say they are more productive, based on... what? They say they are happier and wasting less time. OK. Where's Thayer with his stopwatch? He wasn't there. What's the measure of the output? The number of emails sent? Lines of code written? Widgets shipped? LOLOL

Then the company says in-office is more productive... again, based on *what measure*?

You cite (well, not really... you don't even have a link...) Jordan Peterson, a "scientist" who nearly killed himself with... checks notes... a diet of nothing but meat and salt.

Your understanding of the layoffs at many of these companies is so factually incorrect, I suspect that you literally simply *made it up* to suit your preferred narrative. Amazon's devices division, for example, wasn't losing $5b because people were working from home, but because no one wants to use Alexa for anything other than playing music and setting kitchen timers. They were highly productive... at creating product with poor market fit. Microsoft has had tons of people working from home for... as long as I know of.

Price's Law applies to *all* workers, not just remote workers, anything you say about it is just as true for in-office as remote.

Twitter didn't keep the "best" of their people, they did a crazy-fast look at printed code, made snap judgements, and then did their "click here to keep your job" nonsense which kept... not the best people... but those who either love Elon Musk, or were not able/willing to find work elsewhere (aka "hostages")... you don't even have the basic ability to comprehend that situation.

Your analysis here - and the funny thing is, *I agree with a significant part of your conclusion*, I think remote work isn't the best for a lot of situations in an ideal world - is complete garbage. You are simply someone who takes glee at seeing people who you think had cushy remote jobs getting laid off. That's pretty sick. This is a mind-blowingly-poor analysis.

J.Ja